and especially if you come in with not that much experience as both lincoln and obama did, now you know you learn from that the most important thing we got to figure out in the second term is how much do they learn from their mistakes and their strength in the first term. the boldness he's showing that's his decision that's what he's learned and we'll see if that works. >> rose: john heilemann what do you read as the people he's chosen for his national security team how he sees his second term on that front. >> well gosh charlie, that's a, it's obviously a team that's gone through its turmoil. there was turmoil around the question whether susan rice will be secretary of state. he decided not to put her forward. there's turmoil now around chuck hagel. this is, people have pointed out, this is a bunch of seasoned white guys, they are a team that's nothing like as star studded as the team he had in his first term. again i think that reflects to some large extent the degree of something doris was just talking about was the president has swayinger right now and a lot of confidence. and forepolicy, he

, just a second or two shy of one hour, president obama delivers his fifth state of the union address. the first state of the union of his second term in office after having been re-elected in november. it is a speech that touched on so many domestic issues, principally first and foremost the budget deficit. went through a list of other issues from energy to manufacturing, touched on foreign policy and at the end reached, i think it's fair to say, an emotional crescendo when he talked about gun violence in america and recognized a number of individuals there in the house chamber who have been touched by gun violence. either they're the survivors, surviving family members or who themselves have been victims of gun violence. mark, we were counting, i think, as he went through... i know i made some notes. almost a dozen new initiatives the president announced on everything from international trade to higher education to doing something about the voting experience in america. it seemed like the president was trying to inject some energy into his second term. >> i agree wu, judy. i just wa

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